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sarah
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« on: February 06, 2010, 04:20:36 PM »

Yesterday I found out a close friend and coworker of mine is having a baby.  She reluctantly told me with sorrow in her eyes.  I immediately said congratulations that I was very happy for her.  She responded with "no you are not."  She knew that this was something that Milan and I were planning - picking names, setting up a room in our new house, planning to have a baby.  He died before I could have his baby.  When I grieve the death of Milan, I grieve many aspects.  I have grieved for "Mona" our unborn baby many times. 

I promised her that I was, that I would never be mad that two deserving people bring a beautiful baby in this world.  And that is the truth.

Although I would never say this to her, I know that I can vent here...I am happy for her and I would never take from her deserved happiness. I know that she will be a wonderful mom.  I also know that as I watch that beautiful being grow in her, so will my longing for Mona.  As I watch her and listen to her, I will be happy for her.  I will also have yet one more reminder of the many things I will never get to experience with Milan. 

I know that Milan would have been a great father, I know that he would have done everything in his power to be the parent that he always wished he had. 

I will do my best to get through this.  I will hold in my sadness when she talks about her happiness.  I know that she understands my feelings...but I also know that my pain should not take one moment of her happiness. 

I do not have the strength to attend a baby shower or to walk into the baby section to purchase a gift.  And, that saddens me.  I wish I could do that for her. 

I have gotten the strength to turn Mona's room into a guest room and I know that I will whole heartily love all those that lay in her room.

Today I grieve for Milan and Mona. 

In my grief, I know that one day I will have "Mona" and I will have the love to give her for both Milan and I. 

 Sob

I'll end on a happier note....Today I gave a coworker most of Milan's t-shirts ( I kept a 5 that I am going to wear to bed).  She is an excellent quilter and is going to make a blanket for me.  I never thought the day would come - that I would have the strength to alter anything of Milan's...but today I did! While it hurt my heart..it also felt so very right.  I know that he was with me, helping me to take one shirt at a time of the hanger. 

I can't wait to see how beautiful the blanket will be.

Thank you all for listening to me vent -
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 12:19:37 AM »

Hugs for you, sarah.  I can understand how crappy this makes you feel.  I wish to comment, but I'll have to do it tomorrow.  I am sooooooooooo pooped from taking care of my and a widowed neighbor's two-car driveways and the sidewalks filled with 30" of snow.  If it weren't for my son's help, I'd be worse than pooped, so I'm grateful for only being pooped.

I didn't wait till tomorrow to write something cuz I didn't want you hanging out here wondering what's up with these GJers!  Like Arnold, I'll be back! Mr. Green

 High Five regarding Milan's shirts.  Let us know about the quilt; I'm excited to hear about it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 03:29:38 AM »

((((Hugs)))) sarah ... for you, for Milan, for Mona.

We couldn't have children, and I remember the pain that the realisation brought. We had each other to get us through this realisation, though, and the realisation was a gradual one, rather than the nuclear sized bombshell of his death. I'm so proud of your reaction to your coworker, and her comments make it clear that she won't have any resentment if you feel unable to attend baby showers or buy a gift. Perhaps if you really feel like giving them a present, you could ask someone else to buy it for you, so you don't have to visit the shop?

You've shown so much strength, turning Mona's room into a guestroom and for the tees. The quilt is a wonderful idea!  Kiss
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 03:59:46 PM »

I'm back!  Mr. Green

Like I wrote last night, sarah, your feelings are understandable and they are perfectly normal.  I'm glad you feel comfortable venting here and I hope venting is helpful to you with this issue and with any other issue.

These are things I know you know, but just like venting can be helpful, I hope being reminded of things you know can be helpful too.

We will never escape reminders of things that can no longer exist or be experienced with our spouses.  Because of that fact, we have to be mindful of the impact and the repercussions of our actions taken in avoidance.  Actions of avoidance can adversely affect us even when the action is taken for the purpose of self protection.  As much as I loath having the words said to me (by self or others) and as reluctant as I am to utter the words to another, sometimes it is true and necessary, we just have to suck it up and do what we don't want to do, what is uncomfortable for us to do and seems impossible for us to do, to obtain the benefit we will derive from it or sometimes simply because it has to be done.

We have to remember that there is the possibility for joy, pleasure, fun, excitement, learning, opportunity and the like in every occasion, including dreaded occasions.  Sheltering ourselves from events we dread, fear or dislike can mean that we also shut ourselves off from the positive things that may occur and may turn out to be what we need or potentially need.

Sometimes we have to put ourselves in another's place and give consideration to how we would want to be treated or how we would want something to go were we in that place.  When we do that, we can choose to be dismissive, we can choose to muster our strength and do what is difficult or we can try to meet with a compromise.  And, always, always, always we have to be cognizant of the ramifications of our choice and be willing to live with the consequences of our choice.  When making decisions we always have to start and end with the sight of "the man in the mirror."

After I miscarried my first pregnancy, I didn't like going to baby showers.  Since my husband's death, I don't like going to weddings and I don't like going to funerals or pre-funeral services.  I don't like going to my church's pot-luck dinners or other social gatherings, not because I feel like I stick out to others like a sore thumb, it's because I feel my solo attendance like a sore thumb.  Yet, I did go to baby showers and I do do the other things because these things are about community.  They're about being there for people at special times in their lives, wonderful and horrific special times.  Those for whom we do these things are not the only beneficiaries of our actions, we too benefit.

Think about this event, sarah, your friend's pregnancy event.  Think about both scenarios of buying a baby gift and attending her baby shower.  Think about the benefits, both short term and long term and decide which benefits you prefer and then give a look at whether your preference will make you feel good about yourself.

I too believe Mona will one day be in your life and I hope when she arrives, your heart has been given its full capacity to love so that she and you can benefit from it.  To know Love as a human means we're going to know hurt too - hurt can come in many forms, like the form of sympathy or empathy because one we love is hurting and our heart therefore hurts.  Sometimes our greatest demonstration of our love for someone, some thing or some place includes the risks we take to expose ourselves as well as the precautions we take to protect those we love.

I want you to make sure you make your best choices, sarah, when deciding what to do and what not to do.  Whether you decide you can buy a gift, but not go to the shower, you decide you can do neither or you decide you can do both, your decision will be acceptable and okay.  Of what I want you to be sure is that you are doing what is best for you with realization that avoidance can be the easier thing to do, but not necessarily what is best for you.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 06:00:59 PM »

Great post Branch. Clap Hands Made me think!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 12:13:17 AM »

Sarah, I am sending a few of Jim's favorite tees to my niece who is making a quilt with them. It took a lot for me to give them up, but I did knowing that what will come back will be even more precious. Better a quilt then just a bunch of shirts in a drawer.  (I say that with still many many of jim's shirts left in a drawer)
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 12:45:14 PM »

Sarah, I did not have the same experience that you are having but it made me think of this conflict of emotions in relating to people I care about and that care about me.

Both with our friends and with my husband's family, when they want to include me in their joy for something because they obviously care about me and being included will highlight to me my husbands death and absence, I feel that conflict of attraction and repulsion.  The pain of these experiences is less now but it is still present.

From the beginning I explained to whomever was trying to include me that although I felt happy for them and appreciated that they were including me, that actually participating would highlight his absence for me and increase my pain, so I had to participate from a distance or that I was happy for them but was not ready to be happy with them.

Right now I feel much stronger and better and sometimes the people in my life think I'm "ready". Last weekend my brother in law (my husband's brother) invited me to their time share to take a brake from winter and I had to explain that I was so honored by their invitation and that I love them, but if I went it would probably take me months to recover from being with them in a vacation without him and right now I do not want to be focusing in that pain.

I find that it is better to tell people I love what the process is. They are more open to understand and don't take it personally and they also understand that I care about them. They also understand that by declining their invitation I'm trying to do exactly what they want me to do - to find a way to be happy again.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 01:13:17 PM »

IMO, ellen, that's a very healthy approach.  It permits genuine happiness for others to be in harmony with your limitations.  To me, that helps make avoidance and self protection to not be counterproductive and therefore, detrimental to you and your goal.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 07:26:25 PM »

I appreciate all the replies.  It is comforting to know people care, and I appreciate the many different perspectives on how to deal with tough situations. 

In this stage of my journey, I find that I am sucking upquite a bit. As I put on my mask and conquer the many things I would have done before Milan's death (work, family,friends, holidays, church, etc) sometimes I feel it is worth the effort - while other times I feel as though I have put myself in an unnecessary place of pain - that I was not ready. 

I have come to listen to my innerself, to know when to push and to know when to "just breath."  I totally understand what you are saying about avoidance Branch.  If it were an option I think that there is a good possibility that I would choose to avoid living life. How sad.

Ellen "so I had to participate from a distance or that I was happy for them but was not ready to be happy with them." really hit home to me.  I am going to keep that quote close to my heart when making decisions. I never looked at it as partial participating...but why now? Why can't I participate at a distance - providing worth and less pain for me. 

I will see her everyday..I will not avoid her.  I will face this situation with grace and dignity.  I will listen to my inner, my heart.
I have decided that I am not going to go to the shower...but I will participate at a distance.  I will force myself to get a card and present...I know she deserves that and I would regret not providing that.  When I do this, I will feel as though I am opening a wound, I am predicting a bad public wave, so I will bring someone to help pull me up..but I know I must do it. I will give her the gift at work, at the end of the day, so if I have to leave quickly I can. 

I can't go to the shower.  I can't do it to myself, I can't suck this one up - but the day of the shower I know I will get through the day - even if it is "just breathing" laying on my couch.

Thank you Ellen and Branch for helping me problem solve.  A feel like I have chose wisely...a mixture of y'alls advise.   

I can sleep soundly tonight knowing one less decision needs to be made.

xo - Sarah

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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 07:29:36 PM »

opps wanted to thank Mixlass too...thank you for the positivity and encouragement. Happy/Smile
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« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2010, 02:47:17 AM »

You do suck it up a lot and it's tiring.

I too loved the line of ellen's you quoted.  It's perfect.

I think the decision you've made is a good and healthy one.  Of course I wish your friend well in her pregnancy, sara, and I also wish you well in her pregnancy.  It isn't going to be easy for you, but I think you've given it enough contemplation to make it something you'll be able to live through with relative harmony for your happiness for her and for your personal pain and longing.

Good going, sarah! High Five
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2010, 09:22:00 AM »

I think that the more you allow yourself to be happy for her and sad for yourself; and that you take care of your needs - everything will be alright.
If you friend can understand that, this friendship has great potential for healing for you and expansion for her.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2010, 09:16:48 PM »

I started my morning...my friend (who is also an aide in my classroom) and I usually drink a cup of coffee together...this morning she passed.  I knew why and did not say anything b/c that lump in my throat would not allow me.  I thought of your words Ellen...allow myself to be happy for her and sad for me.  I thought of how I have every right to be sad.  How I had every right to go into the bathroom sit on the floor and cry.  I am so very sad and I am now realizing that it is okay for me to feel this pain for all of my "couldas and wouldas."

I also know that I have a mortgage to pay and two little wiener dogs to feel...so I went back in, put on my mask, and taught the children that I love.

I work with special needs children..many autistic children.  Some of my kids are non verbal, some speak very little and what they say makes no sense, and some just don't stop talking!  Today I watched/studied my autistic children, they live in their own world.  Many of my students scream and cry when they are sad, flap and loudly giggle when they are happy, touch people when they probably should be giving more personal space,and hit when they are mad.  I teach many lessons on behaviors/emotions/etc. BUT today the thought that "they have it right and we don't" kept entertaining my brain.  Perhaps, we don't show our emotions b/c it is what society tells us to do.  Perhaps we should cry everytime we are sad, loudly laugh at everything we find funny, give more physical affection, and okay...maybe not hitting when we are mad! (but imagine how liberating that would be  Razz )Maybe the whole world is wrong when it comes to acceptable reactions to emotions.  Hmmm Lots of Laughs

Maybe I need to stop thinking and go to bed!
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2010, 09:24:55 PM »

I agree!  One thing is for sure, I have the crying part down pat.  I cry whenever and wherever the tears decide to come.
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2010, 01:11:03 PM »

If you really care about this friend, you might want to talk with her.
If you put yourself in her shoes - which I know it must be horribly difficult - you could imagine how bad she must feel that she is experiencing this most wonderful experience and she can't share it with you.
If you could sit and talk about how you two are experiencing such opposite emotions and that the other can't really share it. That it is so difficult for you because it brings the sadness of what can't be. And for her, even if it is not conscious, it might bring the fear of what could be. I think that might bring you two closer and at the same time name the big white elephant that will grow between you two otherwise.
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